[Nagiosplug-devel] NOCPulse

[Ethan Galstad]

I'm not exactly sure what the deal is with NOCPulse.  I was contacted 
by two different NetSaint users in March and April of last year who 
had been in contact with NOCPulse sales staff.  They mentioned that 
the salespeople let it slip out that NP was built around the NetSaint 
daemon, with a custom frontend and reporting interface.

One of them mentioned their service ran about $5000 a month, but I 
have no way of verifying that number.  If so, I should have started 
my own company a long time ago. :-)  Anyway, if they are not selling 
the software - i.e. they are just selling a service - this may fall 
into the "ASP loophole" with regards to the GPL.  If however, they 
are selling/distributing the software or decide do so in the future, 
this could be interesting...


On 23 Oct 2002 at 13:36, Mayhew, Andrew wrote:

> The NOCPulse software was originally built on a Netsaint core, which they
> claimed to have re-written large chunks.  There were still large portions of
> it that were just perl scripts last time I saw it (March 2002), including
> most of the modules.  The software still maintains the same NetSaint
> architecture with some added stuff.  In fact most of the plugins were just
> the NetSaint plugins.  I forget right now which version of NetSaint they had
> based everything on, but I do recall that this was all started when the main
> developers will still at GlobalCrossing about 2 years ago now (at least).
> 
> The whole deal with NOCPulse was that they would have a box on your network
> to handle the monitoring.  It was a "secured RedHat Linux machine" (their
> words) that would do active polling to nrpe agents and then pass nsca
> packets back to their NOC.  All reporting and pages would come from their
> NOC and network, and this included the web interface.
> 
> After having an evaluation machine for a couple of weeks and gaining access
> to it, I decided that my company could not afford to spend that much money
> for a bunch of Perl scripts on top of NetSaint.  That and I had issues with
> opening access to the core of my network to the outside world in order for
> them to monitor my machines.
> 
> Their whole business model kind of revolved around the hope that there were
> a large number of companies willing to outsource their NOC.  Except that all
> they would do is call/page someone if something broke and in the
> environments that I work in, the NOC is tasked to actually attempt to fix
> things before giving up and calling someone.  The RedHat purchase is
> probably just a way for RH to increase their services offerings while
> continuing to ignore the major problems in their distribution.
> 
> Enough ranting.  
> --Andy Mayhew
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rusch, Daniel [mailto:Daniel.Rusch at GlobalCrossing.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:29 PM
> > To: 'ABostick at mydoconline.com'; nagiosplug-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: RE: [Nagiosplug-devel] NOCPulse
> > 
> > 
> > The software NocPulse sells isn't freeware.  I know the 
> > people who started
> > NocPulse many of them are xGlobal Crossing employees.  If you can be a
> > little specific I'd be happy to ask them your questions.
> > 
> > Dan 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ABostick at mydoconline.com [mailto:ABostick at mydoconline.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:00 PM
> > To: nagiosplug-devel at lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [Nagiosplug-devel] NOCPulse
> > 
> > 
> > I do not know if anyone caught this, but RedHat this week purchased a
> > company called NOCPulse that writes software to "manage many 
> > servers as
> > one".  So I had to see this was about and after looking at 
> > the screen shots,
> > I'm thinking "This is nagios or at least the nagios plugins..."
> > 
> > The service check names and result codes are identical to 
> > Netsaint / Nagios
> > but from what I can tell I do not think they are open source...
> > 
> > Any one else know what this is about as I'm curious about 
> > RedHat "buying"
> > software which is already free...
> > 
> > Aaron
> > 
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Ethan Galstad,
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